A mosque asking that Canadian workplaces respect a strict Muslim dress code is at the same time disseminating slurs against Jews and Western societies, and warning members against social integration.
Why? Why should a work place respect a dress code that has been deemed dangerous? Sometimes I just don’t get religion. We are living in a modern society with a modern law that clearly stipulates the health of the employee to be of paramount value. And if the way the employee behaves or chooses to dress which is contrary to what is expected of the employee, then please find other work.
In September, a Canadian Human Rights Tribunal heard two weeks of testimony from eight mosque members alleging “Islamophobia” at the company’s west Toronto plant. Three final days of testimony are scheduled for next week.
The eight women, who lost their jobs at UPS, say Islam dictates that they wear a full-length skirt for modesty. The courier company insists that any skirt be knee-length for safety, as workers climb ladders up to 6 metres high.
Under their skirt, the women wear full-length trousers but say they do not want the lower part showing in case the shape of the calf can be discerned.
The complaint originally centred on the company’s use of temporary workers and uneven enforcement of its safety rules.
But the key question remains: Is UPS insisting on shorter hems for safety or is it violating religious rights by denying the women permanent jobs unless they conform?
I ASSUME that the dress code was told to the women on the day they were hired. If the women accepted it at that point then I am sorry, they need to be shown the door.
If the company told the women after a few weeks/months/years of employment that part of their job is to dress in a certain way, then the company is at fault. It’s as clear as that.
If the company is enforcing it’s safety rules in a discriminatory way then, they should definitely be investigated. But I kind of find it hard to believe that UPS, a global brand name company, would risk a PR problem by picking on women because of their religion.
The article continues with this :
The Khalid Bin Al-Walid Mosque near Kipling Ave. and Rexdale Blvd. serves as the religious authority for eight Somali women complaining to the Canadian Human Rights Commission that UPS Canada Ltd. violated their religious rights at a sorting plant. The mosque, founded in 1990 and serving upwards of 10,000 people, preaches strict adherence to sharia, or Islamic law, and no compromise with the West.
Teachings on the mosque’s website, khalidmosque.com, refer to non-Muslim Westerners as “wicked,” “corrupt” and “our clear enemies.”
Sometimes Jews are singled out.
“Is it permissible for women to wear high-heeled shoes?” begins one posting in question-and-answer format. “That is not permissible,” comes the reply. “It involves resembling the Disbelieving Women or the wicked women. It has its origin among the Jewish women.”
Modern pastimes are condemned.
“What is the ruling on subscribing to sports channels?” another question begins. “Watching some of the female spectators, when the camera focuses on them time after time” stirs “evil inclinations,” the lesson reads. “Some (players) may not even believe in Allaah.”
Mosque leaders refused repeated requests for an interview.
A disclaimer on the website says questions and answers do not necessarily reflect the mosque’s views. But the About Us page says: “All questions and answers on this site (are) prepared, approved and supervised by (the mosque’s imam) Bashir Yusuf Shiil.”
And some people have the nerve to ask, why be an atheist?
This is clearly religious indocternation right under our noses here in Canada. I am miffed by the fact that why is it even allowed? Were this a Church web-site would the authorities have allowed the church to continue spewing hatred? Why is this mosque being given a pass? It will be interesting to see how the authorities handle this situation because it will be very telling on the status of political correctedness in Canada.
And here is the other side :
ABIDE BY OUR RULES OR LEAVE OUR COUNTRY
I’m sick and tired of immigrants coming to our country to then make demands upon us and dictate how we should regulate matters. Safety must come first and UPS is absolutely right to insist that long skirts not be worn in the warehouses due to the safety implications. The audacity to think that they have a right to tell us how we should “run our show”. I say clearly and loudly, out with the entire lot of them. Either come to our country and accept our culture, rules and regulations or go back to where you came from where “the long skirt rules”. Too many Canadians are too “politically correct” and afraid to speak out for fear of being labelled a racist. In the meantime, these immigrants have no reservations about speaking out against our culture. Who truly is the racist in this scenario ? No more polite cow-towing to their endless demands. Abide by “our” rules or leave.
What I find amusing is how the anti-immigrant squad comes out fighting each time such an issue is in the news. “If you don’t like our rules, leave”.
I’d like to ask Marilyn, is that what your ancestors were told by the natives when they arrived in Canada? It is so easy for you to dictate terms to us immigrants when you are kind of foggy about your status in this country. YOU ARE ALSO AN IMMIGRANT. You are what we would call a 2nd or 3rd generation immigrant. Even if your ancestors arrived in Canada 400 years ago, you still have your roots in some European country. So please stop with this “immigrants are evil” bullshit.
And I am sick and tired of hearing “our culture, our values”. What exactly are they? I would love for someone to identify “Canadian culture” for me.
I strongly oppose any form of religious indoctrination (am an atheist) in Canada and this mosque should be investigated and if necessary, closed. But to start blanketing every immigrant as “they have come to destroy us” is sheer paranoia.
I liked your comments and balanced views.
toronto should have a wall built around it ,then be nuked. everyone in toronto is a left winged retard . toronto is so far removed from the rest of canada that they should deport the whole city ,its a third world shithole in the middle of a great country . what a disgrace .canadians hate toronto and its not hard to figure out why , a bunch of smug,self hating guilt ridden whites that kiss ass of jamacians or any blacks or gays or tranies while they all hate each other .a torontonian cant even hold a door open for the person behind him but they all have the know how to save the world.toronto has no community just a bunch of racist immigrants (that hate canadians).if you think toronto reflects other canadians then you are very ,very wrong ,toronto sucks . crackheads, whores, gangsters, eletists, yuppies and third world warriors ,what a shithole.
canada was founded by the french , then the british came, some native tribes fought with the french ,some fought with the british ( and many native groups fought each other (in case you thought everything was all peacfull until the white man showed up)we fought against the americans in 1812 and established the country(we being the forefathers of the french and british and natives)so this country was forged and fought for ,not like the french and british immigrated here. they forged a civilisation out of the elements , they built the cities the railway ,harnessed the power of the land and became one with it (you would have to to build a country out of wilderness and mountains).they didnt just arrive here and start demanding rights ,they had to fight and establish rights and there are the same rights we share now whether you were born here or not.i have heard so much disrespect to our forefathers ( oh they just came and stole the land from the indians)from immigrants who come here to live ( on the same so called stolen land)what makes them any better than if they come to live on this land that they question , if they have a problem with whos country this is why are they here?the natives SOLD the land to whites( thats why many places have native names ,like toronto.and that is why there is on going land claim disputes with the government. so the french and english have a common european connection as well as other europeans that fit in well to canada ,like italians, germans, ukranians, polish, europeans have many things in common( repect for human life,rule of law ,marriage ,common agricultural practices etc..)the last 30 years or so has been a very strange phonomenon in western countries the experiment of immigration from non european (white countries)an experiment that most westerners are realising is a big mistake (myself included)and many countries are trying to reverse this or stop immigration from third world countries. this experiment ,many suspect is the work of zionist working to create chaos in western (as well as all other cultures )in order to divide and weaken the culture.so to answer your question canadian culture is a offshute of european and native cultures( i think a great injustice has been done to the natives of this country and they should have a stronger place in leadership roles)as well as a strong industial ,capitalist culture that builds products that are for sale and a strong environmental and nature loving culture (and canada like most other countries is still evolving .this being said i feel that there are many cultures that are incompatible or intolerable(and this works two ways )many groups that are too religious do not fit in well here , islamic extremists ,hindus ,muslims as well as many carribean cultures like jamacians who do not seem capable of respecting human life ,rule of law or even contributing to society in the least.canadians do not wear thier culture or beleifs on thier sleeve and are very turned of by groups like muslims ,jamacians, or jews who dont hesitate to fill every space with “themselves”. i myself have an irish ancestory and my wife is from ecuador, but we are just people first and foremost and limiting ourselves or defining ourselves by our “backgrounds”is something neither of us really care to do ,we are proud of who we are but that is personal.it is simply that, a background and thats where it stays. if you want to fit in in canada its pretty simple ,obey the law ,have mutual respect for other people , respect the rights we all share together and dont use every thing as an oppourtunity to cry for special rights,or preferential treatment or alleged racism dont cram your culture down other peoples throats ,keep it to yourself where it belongs and youll do just fine. this being said canada is one of the only countries that would ever allow foriegners to come here that dont have any respect ,many immigrants feel as if they are coming to take this land over from the whites,and beleive me canadians are waking up to this fact.the days of third world immigration are almost over and you have only the immigrants themselves to thank for taking advantage of our generosity,when a group of kind ,tolerant, understaning good natured people are taken advantage of there will be hell to pay.through out history whites have woken up to the fact that were being taken advantage of and when we do there is a world war or a holocaust to go along with it, just something to keep in mind.
its not a rocket science problem look around .what is canada ? define canadian culture ?any human has a sense of right and wrong ,honesty and dishonesty.canada once had somewhat unity amongst its people ,now you dont know who to trust .if you dont know what a canadian is then you should do what they say and leave .its not hard to figure out how to get on here .canadians are good natured people and we should put our foot down to all these groups .its not shrouded in mystery how to get on here .you ask that question what are we ? define what is a canadian? well fuck you and your mind games buddy.you should be kicked out for insinuating that we dont have a culture or that some immigrant that just arrived is as valid as someone whos family has been here 400 years ,fuck you and all you fucks who carry on this entrapment .soon we will vote in a government that does just that kicks out all the fuckin immigrants that dont know how to live here without causing problems because they think there isnt a canadian culture or that they are just as canadian as a local.mabey the left wing immigration officer told you that you are just as canadian as anyone else but it just isnt true. if i immigrate to china am i just as chinese as someone from there? i dont think so ,and it doesnt matter what asshole says its true it just isnt ,if that same immigration officer told you you can drink rat poison would that be true as well? so yeah get on the page , obey the rules of our great country canada or get out .and soon enough the canadian people will vote for a government who will put this into action, canadians have had enough bullshit(dont beleive what you hear from a torontonian they are the most hated of all canadians ,and with good reason .bunch of anti white retards ,the real racicts, toronto immigrants
All I want to ask is….it took you 1 and 1/2 hour to write this!!?!?!
In your diatribe/incorrect history lesson, you did not mention once what is “Canadian Culture”. There was something about the rule of law and mutual respect for each other. Well, those are qualities are pretty much a theme in humanity but I am glad to be in a country that actually practices it. And no, as much as I may pissed with some people, I do not think that entire clan is as retarded and wish to nuke them.
It’s obvious that you have some problem with the non-white person, best to take it up with your therapist.
And you can vote in any moron you want to into the government, you can try to try to “kick” out all immigrants but the reality is that Canada is a heady mixture of a lot of cultures. And that’s the way it is going to be from now on. If YOU don’t like it, leave the country because, as difficult it is for you to accept this, Canada’s face is changing from pure white to rainbow colours. Live with it or, bye bye.
BTW, if China or India were remotely like Canada, I would have gladly moved there and railed about the anti immigrant squad in those countries just like I do here.
Have a great day.
SICK and TIRED of people comming to Canada for a better life….then complaining that “this is not the same way “we” do it “back home” ”
WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE AND WHAT ARE YOU THINKING IN YOUR TINY HEADS?
If life was soooo goood wearing the turbans and covering your faces why did you leave? You want a better life?….why do you bring the DISEASE that caused the reason to leave…..GO WITH THE CANADIAN SYSTEM AND ACCEPT IT I DON’T PAY TAXES TO SUPPORT YOU ABROAD!!…..If you go back to your country and break the law and they say you’re to be hanged….THEN DIE….you were NEVER A REAL CANADIAN ANYWAY AND I DON’T WANT MY TAX MONIES GOING TO A USLESS CAUSE…IF YOU NEVER CAME HERE WE WOULDN’T HAVE TO PAY FOR THIS….BUT YET YOU EXPECT US TO CARE?
This is the same as the dump truck situation in Edmonton a few years back…you screw the system to death……….then complain your not making money and demand the system is byist and protest is drobes…IN MY OPINION IF YOU DRIVE THE RATE DOWN THEN DON’T F**KING BITCH…..
ONLY SO MUCH OF THIS WILL BE PUT UP WITH….WE DIDN’T WIN THE 54/40 FIGHT WITH THE USA just by luck
Don’t bite the hand that feeds
oh dear….someone has got his/her panties in a bunch.
I am not going anywhere. I am staying right here….me and my brown ass. And please go to an anger management class, don’t worry, MY TAXES will take care of your treatment.
…………and remember not to take your anger out on your kids. Peace.
I agree with the fellow that doesn’t want to pay tax monies to people who don’t live here or call this home? Why do we cater to this kind of attitude?
English and French are the official languages in Canada yet we cater to people whom “supposedly” can sing the anthem and speak english or french??
Why would a hindi group in Vancouver want the Canadian National Anthem sung in hindi????? ARE YOU FUCKED AND ROYALY FUCKING STUPID?
If I were in hindu land and demanded that the Canadian anthem be sung in Hindi, I’D PROBABLY BE SHOT ON THE SPOT!!!!! Hence the translation of the anthem which was nothing close to the Canadian Anthem….whom ever thought of this idea for the hindi anthem should be questioned on what their motives are? CAN YOU SPEAK FRENCH OR ENGLISH?? OR ARE YOU JUST FUCKING STUPID?
Canadians will only be backed in a corner for so long
Why do you insist on signing under different names when I can see that you are the same person from Ardrossan? Chicken?
I am going to start administrating the comments from now on. You want to leave a rationally argued comment, go right ahead but if you are going to be a racist potty mouth just because you are good at being a racist potty mouth, then your comment will be deleted. Oh, BTW, your IP address (including your street address) and your ISP details are safe and sound with me. I will not misuse them at all.
Have a great day!